First Class Bathrooms Are Not Protected By National Security Laws
So a few days ago I wrote to both the FAA and America West customer service departments and asked about the supposed “federal security regulations” that America West cited on my last flight when they informed all of the coach passengers that we were not allowed to use the first-class passengers’ bathroom. As I reported in the comments, the FAA forwarded my request on to the TSA, who responded by telling me I needed to contact the FAA. This is of course the only possible outcome when dealing with a government agency.
Regardless, America West responded today:
Dear Mr. Hodulik,
Thank you for contacting America West Airlines. We appreciate and welcome all inquiries, concerns, and compliments, as your feedback is important to us.
Our first class ticket holders pay a premium to enjoy a quiet cabin atmosphere to complete paperwork or to simply take pleasure in the amenities the first class cabin offers. Our first class flight attendants request and encourage coach customers to use the lavatories in the rear of the aircraft when serving carts are not obstructing the aisle.
Should it become necessary for coach customers to use the forward lavatory, they will be asked to wait behind the bulkhead separating the two cabins until the forward lavatory is vacant. Heightened safety measures dictate, our customers cannot congregate in the forward galley while waiting to use the lavatory, though we cannot refuse a coach customer the use of the forward lavatory.
We realize that the professional attitude of our employees will leave a positive impression of our company, and I’m sorry this was not your experience.
Your feedback is appreciated and will be shared with our Inflight Manager. The intent here, of course, is to address these issues and to make positive changes for the future.
Sincerely,
Kathi Gee
Customer Relations
America West Airlines—–Original Message—–
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txa message : I am writing to inquire about your policy of not allowing coach passengers to use the first class bathrooms during flights. During my last trip the flight attendents cited “federal security regulations” as being the reason why this policy is in effect. Since the very existence of such a regulation is a particularly bizarre notion for most rational humans I am wondering if you can help me to understand *exactly* which regulations dictate such a strange policy and where I can get an exact copy of those regulations. I very much appreciate your help.
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So, as Ars said in the comments to the previous post, the regulation refers to people congregating near the bulkhead, not to using the lavatory itself. So basically America West’s entire message to me, while very friendly and courteous, is essentially PR-speak before and after the only statement that actually matters: …though we cannot refuse a coach customer the use of the forward lavatory.
So don’t take any crap from those flight attendants. If you have to go, go. Anybody who tells you that you can’t go to the bathroom is a bad person.
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Good work, Mr. Nader. You may be crazy and unhinged, but you’re fightin’ for us all. I still don’t think that gives you carte blance to pee on the passengers, nor Chad to puke on them. As for Alan Keyes: the beverage cart is not for crapping. Apparently, that’s what First Class is for.
Have a nice flight… I’ll catch the next one
I used to date an America Worst Flight Whore/Air Mattress/Shore Leave – whatever you want to call it. Them’s isn’t all bitches – just the one I date (oh yes, and all his friends). However, I guess if you’re making $45 bucks an hour to sling drinks at a cruising altitude of 32,000 feet – you can call the shots.
We has the same problem on America West when we flew to Tahoe. Security measure, BULLSHIT. They didn’t even ask for our ID’s at all. Not when checking in and not when boarding. In fact we checked in three other people that were parking the car. I nicely asked the man before boarding if he needed an ID, his smart ass response was “no thank you I already have”. I will never fly American West again. An elderly woman on one of our flights needed to use the restroom, when all in back were full she headed to the front. Before reaching her final destination, the all to eager flight bitch picked up the intercom mic and promptly asked her to return to her seat. Restrooms in front are not for your use you poor old hag!